In the lead up to the big day, we are publishing interviews with some of our fantastic speakers, to find out what interests them about Highgate’s haunted reputation, and a little more about their work in the paranormal and folkloric fields.
This week Symposium organiser Della Farrant tracked down Worthing-based Charles Walker, retired civil servant (how many times have you read that before?!) and dedicated nemesis of the notorious occult group ‘Friends of Hecate’ (FOH). Many human and animal deaths over the last 44 years have been attributed to this faceless and nameless collective, which some claim does not exist at all – a view vehemently opposed by Charles.
Charles will be speaking at our ‘Highgate and the Occult’ session, and bringing his own experiences to share with the panel. This particular panel includes David Farrant, who has for many years attempted to draw to public attention the activities of a similarly inclined black magical group operating in North London.
WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO SPEAK AT THE HIGHGATE VAMPIRE SYMPOSIUM 2015, CHARLES. YOU RARELY GIVE PUBLIC APPEARANCES OR INTERVIEWS THESE DAYS. WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO SPEAK OUT NOW?
I think its time to do so. I have left it in the past because it has got in the way of research and in any case I am not in it to make a name for myself but to help others and attempt to put a stop to the bizarre and horrific events I have investigated for some years.
CHARLES, GOING BACK TO THE 1970S, IT WAS UFO PHENOMENA WHICH PEAKED YOUR INTEREST IN CLAPHAM WOODS. WHAT WAS THE TURNING POINT, IF ANYTHING, WHICH DIVERTED YOUR PERSONAL INTEREST TOWARDS THE PARANORMAL?
Actually it was an incident at Chanctonbury Ring that diverted my interest. I attended a UFO nightwatch arranged by a local individual. It was to take place at Chanctonbury and would last the whole night. However part way through the night we all met in the centre of the ring of trees for a refreshment break. During that break several people suffered severe stomach cramps, temporary blindness and other symptoms which could not be easily explained. The nightwatch finished there and then. It was research into any similar incidents which them led me to look into events at Clapham in more detail.
YOU HAVE SPENT MANY YEARS AS A LAYMAN AND AS A PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR, WALKING THE LAND AROUND CLAPHAM, AND ATTUNING TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. LEGEND HAS IT THAT THERE IS A CRATER IN CLAPHAM WHERE NOTHING GROWS. WHAT DO YOU THINK MAKES CLAPHAM SPECIAL?
I have, some would say, been obsessed with Clapham for over 30 years or more. I learnt very quickly from those involved in Wicca/Paganism etc. that Clapham was a very powerful place. Several ley lines cross the area and it is the energy from locations where these ley lines cross that makes it a very powerful place. There are times, when the energies are particularly strong, when no birds sing and the whole of the wood becomes totally silent.
Powerful if you know what you are doing.
FOR YEARS YOU HAVE ENDURED THREATS AND ALLEGED PHYSICAL ASSAULTS FROM PERSONS ASSUMED TO BE OR CLAIMING TO BE REPRESENTATIVES OF A SINISTER CULT KNOWN AS THE FRIENDS OF THE HECATE. TO THIS DAY YOU STATE THAT IT IS YOUR MISSION TO BRING THESE PEOPLE, AND THEIR LATTER DAY FOLLOWERS, TO JUSTICE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US MORE ABOUT HOW THIS GROUP AFFECTS THE ENVIRONMENT WHICH YOU FEEL DEDICATED TOWARDS PROTECTING? PHYSICALLY AND / OR PSYCHICALLY?
I have suffered a few ‘attacks’ etc. over the years. These have taken place in an effort to stop my investigations and there have been times when I have eased up for the safety of my family more than anything. The group, FOH, have caused considerable harm to both people and animals and work solely for their own good and gain at the expense of anyone and anything else. It is pure greed and to hell with anything else which is why they must be stopped.
SO, CLAPHAM COULD POTENTIALLY BE ATTRACTIVE TO MAGICAL GROUPS WHO MIGHT BE DRAWN TO, OR WISH TO UTILISE THIS ENERGY, FOR NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE PURPOSES?
The group I am interested in operate for pure negative purposes. Attempts have been made in the past to direct energy for positive purposes but have thus far failed.
DURING THE 1970S A DARK COLUMN ‘EXUDING NEGATIVITY’ WAS SIGHTED IN THE WOODS. CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT, AND WHETHER YOU THINK IT WAS OF PARANORMAL / OCCULT / UFO ORIGIN?
There was some question over this ‘dark column’ because of the persons who reported the first sighting and at the time few people paid much attention to the reports although it did make the news in several places. However there have been further up to date reports from very reliable sources. The recent reports place the appearance of this sinister column on a track leading up to the church. The church itself has however never been desecrated in any way. The thoughts are that this column has been created by the dark group as a warning and deterrent to anyone thinking of going near their meeting place when they are using it.
CHARLES, YOU HAVE CONSCIOUSLY DISTANCED YOUR RESEARCH FROM THAT OF ANDY COLLINS, IN SO FAR AS YOU ARE NOT CONVINCED OF ANY LINK BETWEEN THE CULT ALLUDED IN HIS BOOK THE BLACK ALCHEMIST, AND ANY CONNECTION WITH THE FRIENDS OF HECATE. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE MANAGED TO SECURE A WITNESS TESTIMONY RELATING TO EVENTS CIRCA 1965 INVOLVING SATANIC OR BLACK MAGICAL ACTIVITY IN HIGHGATE. DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS MAY BE CONNECTED WITH THE FRIENDS OF HECATE? AND IS THERE A CLOSER CONNECTION BETWEEN THE 1960S AND 1970S DESECRATIONS OF CHURCHES AND SACRED SITES ACROSS LONDON, KENT, ESSEX AND SUSSEX THAN IS GENERALLY REALISED?
I was told shortly after the publication of The Black Alchemist by a reliable High Priest in Brighton who had been doing some research for me that there was no connection between FOH and the BA. FOH made a point, I am told, of not operating with any ‘outsiders’ they had a strict code of conduct and were very much self self self. Their top people were, and I assume still are, in very high places in society and could not risk exposure of those at the top. My Brighton contact, known as Elymas, said anyone who broke that code would ‘cease to exist’. As far as the Black Cathedral is concerned the information about this group did come to light during my early investigations into FOH and I was made aware that they had cells in Kent and Essex. Certainly some of the activities reported to me were similar to FOH but I cant say I have definite proof that they are connected.
YOUR GROUP, ‘WORTHING PARANORMAL AND OCCULT SOCIETY’ IS REGULARLY CALLED UPON TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGED CASES OF PARANORMAL PHENOMENA. CAN YOU TELL US A BIT ABOUT HOW YOUR GROUP WORKS, AND THE TYPICAL AND EXTRAORDINARY CASES YOU HAVE ENCOUNTERED?
Worthing Occult and Paranormal Investigations consists of a core of people with a serious interest in the paranormal. As a general rule we will get a call asking for help with what the caller considers to be ‘something spooky going on’. I then get a small team together and we will attend the location. We get the basic information from the client and from that we will decide on the best course of action. Initially we will set up video and audio equipment in the area the client indicates has the most reported activity. There are always one or two sensitives/psychics in the team, and they will usually pick up the location of particularly high ‘energies’.
There have been many interesting cases over the years. One that always sticks out involved the spirit of a young child who seemed lost. Myself and one of the Admins of the group, Sally, stood in the room this lost soul frequented and gently told her that she had to join her family ( they had all passed some years ago). After several attempts both myself and Sally felt a gentle breeze go past our legs and she had gone. The client several days later contacted us to say all was well again.
Perhaps the one most striking case I dealt with, before the investigation group was formed, involved poltergeist activity. A knife was thrown in my direction by an ‘invisible hand’.
WHAT ARE THE PREFERRED INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES OF YOUR GROUP, AND WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON OLD SCHOOL VS. MODERN METHODS?
The only modern equipment we use is video cameras and audio equipment … I have no interest in all this modern stuff – you do not get better results. In any case our aim is to help people we do not feel the need to prove anything to anyone. If we can put someone’s mind at rest and stop the activity that is causing them problems that enough for me.
PERHAPS UNUSUALLY FOR A SEASONED PARANORMAL INVESTIGATOR, YOU ARE NOT ADVERSE TO THE USE OF A OUIJA BOARD. WHAT KIND OF PROTECTIVE MEASURES DO YOU USE WHEN UTILISING THIS METHOD OF COMMUNICATION WITH UNSEEN AND UNKNOWN FORCES, AND WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE TO OTHERS WHO MAY BE INSPIRED TO USE THE BOARD?
Anyone using the ouija board should not do so if they have been drinking or taking drugs. If you have negative thoughts then you are going to attract negative energies. The ouija board is NOT a game even though it was and in some cases is still sold as one. I am aware that many investigators won’t use one either because they think it is dangerous or does not work. That is up to them but we have had good results and nothing adverse has ever happened. We never use a board during an investigation without the clients full consent.
Protection is in the form of prayer be it Christian or Wiccan/Pagan. Which depends on who is attending.
YOU HAVE CARRIED OUT MANY VIGILS AT CHANCTONBURY RING, WEST SUSSEX. CAN YOU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU AND YOUR GROUP HAVE EXPERIENCED THERE DURING THE DAY, AND AT NIGHT? AND BRAMBER CASTLE FOR THAT MATTER!
Wow there is a tremendous amount when it comes to Chanctonbury Ring and Bramber Castle. Chanctonbury Ring is very active energy wise. There could almost be another book there. Some I mentioned earlier – there was also a levitation at Chanctonbury on one occasion.
FINALLY, CHARLES, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY TO THOSE WHO SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT, COMFORTED WITH THE REASSURANCE THAT ‘SATANIC PANICS’ ARE ALL THE WORK OF FANTASISING SOCIAL WORKERS AND ATTENTION SEEKERS?
There is more in heaven and earth than we will ever know. How many times have I taken people to Clapham wood who have said “yeah right I’ll come because there is nothing to it” – they damn soon want to leave because they feel uncomfortable no matter how big they think they are.
One other thing people often say is “You’ve made money out of all this – of course you want to keep it going”. Wrong I can honestly tell anyone who say that I have not made a penny at all – ever – not even from the publication of The Demonic Connection – I got nothing at all – not a penny. Others probably did but not me.
I do what I do to help others – end of.
CHARLES IS THIS WEEK’S SPECIAL GUEST ON KTPF (KEEPING THE PARANORMAL FRIENDLY) RADIO SHOW. YOU CAN LISTEN AND PHONE IN LIVE FROM 8PM SUNDAY 10TH MAY 2015 AT HTTP://KTPF.CO.UK